Dear Dave - fun or crap? Why?

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Fun or Crap?

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  1. Asclepius

    Asclepius Deck Sergeant

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    Crap for me. It has really weak storyline and lot of weird scenes trying to be funny. Whole stuff with wending machines is a big load of rubbish. Only thing I like is Cat's charade.
     
  2. Ant E

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    Crap for me. You can tell it was rushed. I wasn't blown away by much of series X. Lemons and The Beginning a side, the rest were hit and miss.
     
  3. Bluey

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    Well, I voted for 'fun', and so far I'm the only person to choose that option. Currently it's 3-1 in favour of 'crap', which actually doesn't surprise me considering the very negative reviews I've seen of the episode over the years.

    I can understand why some other people (actually almost every Red Dwarf fan except me it seems) don't like Dear Dave, but I really like it, and it's an episode that to me has good rewatchability. I liked it on its first airing back in 2012 and it's grown on me more and more since then. I like the storyline and the season 1 and 2 feel to the episode. About the only part of the episode that doesn't work for me is the 'Cat doing charades' scene, which goes on far too long and isn't funny in the least.
     
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    I voted for Crap because of the vending machine nonsense. I really did not like that. But I did like the concept of Lister getting drunk to send fathers days messages to himself and really enjoyed those segments.
     
  5. Abe

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    That was Fathers & Suns. That wasn't even Dear Dave. Dear Dave was the one about Lister's old girlfriend who might have had his children and wrote him letters. And also Rimmer writing his special report and taking all the toilet paper. And also the vending machine nonsense.
     
  6. AJ Smegface

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    I went for fun. I mean the episode's not 'fun' in the traditional Dwarf sense (an adventure or monster-of-the-week type scenario), but I've always found Dear Dave to be quite a nice, relaxed episode. I think it's pretty funny as well, which always helps!

    I get the hate on the episode to an extent though. Series X does have a few tonal issues (XI's a massive improvement in that regard) but then I really do like X, so I'm sort of more willing to let it slide, e.g. the vending machine nonsense in Fathers & Suns doesn't bother me as much as it used to on the first few watches.
     
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    Now I feel embarresed for fetting my episodes mixed up. I did still like the rest of the episode.
     
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    the vending machine love triangle is my favourite part of Dear Dave and X as a whole tbh. there's just something rather adorable about lister trying to cheer up the vending machine at the end and her getting all excited and happy.
     
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    wait no i mistyped, not my favourite part of X as a whole. i mean ONE of my favourite parts.

    my actual favourite part of X is The Beginning
     
  10. talkie3000

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    It suffers from the same thing as alot of the Dave Dwarf stuff, and that is that in one episode alone some of its good and some of it is dreadful.

    Lister bonking the dispensing machine has to be one of the worst visual gags in the shows entire run as not only is it not visually convincing but the idea in itself has been done before but way better.

    The Rimmer Subplot about being demoted is very dull to the point where i barely remember what it was even about.

    The stuff with Lister and the letter has its funny moments though.
     
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  11. BigOleDummy

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    It wasn't one of my favorite episodes, but had its points. Its near the bottom of my lists for episodes....... bottom third anyway. Actually me and talkie3000 must have exactly opposite tastes in humor as what I found funny he didn't and vice versa.
     

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