RDXI Ep 4 - OFFICER RIMMER - DISCUSSION THREAD

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  1. Underdunn

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    Lord knows! The continuity is all over the place with that one! It's worth noting that the only time we've seen Rimmer flip from hard-light to soft-light in order to walk through a door was in series X - and at that point Kryten also had to rework some kind of remote-control in order to turn him on again. So I guess there is some precedent for it not being as simpler process as it sounds.
     
  2. mtullock

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    and dont get me started about what happened to his light bee!!!!! lol
     
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    The Rimmer-monster "absorbing" the other Rimmers was a bit weak. It was never explained how or why it was doing that. Just, "oh, it's absorbing them, of course".
     
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    *head continuity mode*... Fell to the floor just off camera mate, that's all. Fell to the floor when he went through the door. Yeah. That'll do. Whipped back up into him when he came out again. :P
     
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    Kryten did, something about all Rimmers negative personality traits mashed together multiple times rewrote how he works on a cellular level, because he was built up of programmable stem cells.
     
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    Willing to bet Doug was trying to go for a Bottom-like ending gag. It works on a conceptual level, but the episode should have ended on the very frame the bazookoid fire hits the creature. With the ep instead ending about half a second later, the shot is left hanging for too long and it feels awkward.
     
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    Really enjoyed it. i think like the rest of the eps this series they could do with an extra 5 maybe 10 mins, just so it aint as rushed near the end.

    Got to say im lovin the set design, the corridors are a massive step up from last series,

    not as many laugh out loud moments but still a very good ep
     
  8. Slainmonkey

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    An interesting thought, but I wonder if Doug placed this episode after "Give and Take" to imply it's the same asteroid storm in both episodes? I mean I know that likely wasn't the idea at the time of writing them, but maybe it swayed his decision for the episode placements.
     
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    My only grip with this episode is the use of the series 1-2 mid scene music. I think if series 3/4/5 music had been used then there would have been enough time for a last scene to round things off.
    Is Doug trying to connect these later series to the first two with the use of this music?
     
  10. Slainmonkey

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    To be fair the corridor sets for series X were pretty good, but the lighting really killed any potential atmosphere they could have had. I do really like the new corridor sets though and I think the dynamic lighting used in these episodes really make them come alive. If there is a series XIII and XIV, I really wouldn't complain seeing these sets reused as they work very well!
     
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    That or just reduce the load, early series had ambitious stories without having to have an extra 5 minutes
     
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    Ironically Doug has spent alot of time trying to take the show back to Series 1, the cat seems to OOWWWWWW alot now like he did in Series 1, Rimmer is obbessed with his rank like he was in Series 1, the music cues from series 1 are back.

    While i don't mind these things being back i don't quite know why they are back.
     
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    I don't think it necessarily had to mean in present sense, it was just doug doing a social commentary joke
     
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    The positives

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    Chris was on form and this one was very much a Rimmer Episode

    [*] i like the concept of the bio-printer

    [*] The Rimmer Monster

    [*] The Rimmer office Club was great and it just sad there wasn't more on the bio-printed Rimmers


    The negatives

    [*] the TV Channel joke, they are on a space ship 3 million years into space for crying out loud

    [*] Lister and Kryten using the word "Fags" as it has become clear the joke was basically getting kryten to say "fags" since the way robert said it made it pretty obvious and that was so cheap, just like getting the bad guys in twentica to say "you been slagging me off" yeah british slang we get it!

    [*] the way Rimmer was promoted wasn't very convincing, someone important just has to say you are an officer and its legit and then all you have to do to hit the reset button is just to say you resign and thats it, good logic that.
     
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    I really liked the episode. Thought it ended v ery abrupt again and for god sake get a new piece of music for ship fly bys
     
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    Did anyone else notice that in the officers club scene that the music playing in the background subtly has the tune of the Rimmer song from Blue?
     
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    Another excellent episode, another abrupt ending. I don't see why Kryten's plan required using Rimmer as bait. But so many funny moments, I laughed more than in any episode this series. What a brilliant comic nod to bio-horror. The notion of bio-printing is as good a science-fiction concept as Red Dwarf has used, in my opinion. I really have liked each episode more than the last so far, and this series gets progressively nearer to my idea of 'classic' Dwarf.
     
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    I don't think that was Kryten's plan, it seems like Rimmer was supposed to lure it somewhere but when it closed the corridor door behind Rimmer it cornered him, so they just had to wing it from there.
     
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    I actually think that was my favourite episode of the series, Rimmer being Rimmer. An opportunity missed was having some technician Rimmer's printed so we could see him in his series 1 and 2 outfit. Possibly some green and red ones too. Downside was the abrupt ending again
     
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    I actually think that was my favourite episode of the series, Rimmer being Rimmer. An opportunity missed was having some technician Rimmer's printed so we could see him in his series 1 and 2 outfit. Possibly some green and red ones too. Downside was the abrupt ending again
     

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