Food doesn't go off

Discussion in 'RED DWARF UNIVERSE' started by dodgebizkit, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. dodgebizkit

    dodgebizkit Deck Sergeant

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    What is up with food lasting millions of years on red dwarf? I've red/seen reports that mcdonalds burgers have survived years without refrigeration (although- spoiler, this is not true, I once had to do a research essay on food preparation and I chose fast food and had to source the meat for McDonalds, Burger King and Wimpy, and look into the process of how they are made and all that, including shelf life, safety procedures, additives etc - the only additives are in the few sauces that aren't provided by Heinz though most are and therefore they would decompose at the same rate as any other burger or chip.) but to have food mainly stored bin cardboard boxes not rot is pretty hard to believe.
    We've seen the cargo hold areas in earlyish episodes and its all boxes. Lister was looking through the crates in the decks and found a fresh strawberry, there was no way he was walking through deepfreeze searching, or that a strawberry had defrosted to look that good, most food degrades in qualities when frozen and thawed, especially fruit and veg...
    At first I figured that most ship food was microwave meals kept in deep freeze and cooked quickly by vending machines using a high tech cooking system (like the microwaves do in polymorph - interestingly they assemble food from raw ingredients too :P ) as seen in series 1 and 2 with the microwaved curries, but often they chance across things that should have been frozen but weren't and are perfectly preserved... Its like nothing goes off in the future.
    Its kind of a stretch to say that frozen food would last that long... Let alone unfrozen...

    The only frozen food they found were lister's organs in deep freeze...

    Now, its funny that microorganisms in the future don't eat food, but they do eat ships...
     
  2. Whisper

    Whisper First Technician

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    That's what I was thinking the first time Lister fed Cat in episode 1.

    From that point onward I accepted it as something normal in the RD universe.
     
  3. mccollough

    mccollough First Technician

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    Its one of those things that's easier to accept than spend 5 minutes of an episode explaining. Maybe they invented some technology in the 23rd century that prevents food from EVER going off. Hence why lister letting mould grow in a mug would annoy Rimmer so much, maybe its the last mould left in the universe! And Rimmer's stuck with it in his bunk!
     
  4. dodgebizkit

    dodgebizkit Deck Sergeant

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    LOL

    Rimmer - "Last mould ever. The last bit of mould ever, and it's living above my bunk."

    Lster "He has got a name you know, Rimmer."
     
  5. mccollough

    mccollough First Technician

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    HA! Brilliant one! Love it :P
     
  6. shizuo340

    shizuo340 First Technician

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    This is an easy one to explain

    • Futuristic additives
      Dehydrated
      Powderised liquids
      Vacuum sealed
      Stasis
      Deep sleep

    Take your pick
     
  7. Reznor

    Reznor Guest

    lol hmm i would have to pick that mustard stain assuming that's what it is on your long underwear mr custer :-D
     
  8. Angelic_Storm

    Angelic_Storm Catering Officer

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    This was something I wondered about for a long time, but I think the most logical explanation, is that the food stocks are kept in stasis. That way, they never age. xD
     
  9. shizuo340

    shizuo340 First Technician

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    I have no idea wot that's supposed to mean
     
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    I'd have to agree with stasis storage cupboards/crates, OR, if things are in the cargo decks, additives. Possibly a combination of both. Never questioned it before, really. :-p
     
  11. Reznor

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    lol ummm your own picture? your avatar?
    ... k thanks for coming though :-)
     
  12. shizuo340

    shizuo340 First Technician

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    Tyhats not a stain that's a shadow
     
  13. dodgebizkit

    dodgebizkit Deck Sergeant

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    It would make sense that food is cooked, stasised (is that a verb? I'm making it a verb!) and then destasised on demand so that when lister orders a curry, the machine takes it out of stasis and serves it, steaming hot, as to the curry, it was cooked only a minute ago even though it was 3 million years old
     
  14. shizuo340

    shizuo340 First Technician

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    i think u mean put into and taken out of stasis
     
  15. dodgebizkit

    dodgebizkit Deck Sergeant

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    That would be the definitions of the verbs to stasis and to destasis, yes...
     
  16. Reznor

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    lol you have a fantastic sense of humour sir :-)
     
  17. Diet_coke

    Diet_coke Science Officer

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    They eat space weevil and whatever they find on abandoned ships.

    Beer milk shakes are fine, cos beer would survive 3 million years and still be drinkable.

    And fish, well, what's to say there aren't fish 3 million years in deep space?
     
  18. Rottencarrot

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    Perhaps they have the ability to create foods using synthetic proteins etc. So they can have a 'chicken' vindaloo with synthetic chicken. They claim to recycle urine to make alcoholic beverages, so I suppose they could gather all Lister and Cat's poops and recycle them into food :-D
     
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    I like the stasis idea the best, but the novels state that the food is all vacuum-sealed. Also, the food dispensers seem to have technology similar to Star Trek replicators, so that kind of stuff wouldn't go bad.

    In the end, you just have to accept things like food and clothes still being intact after 3 million years, Red Dwarf being able to come across dozens of derelicts in the infinite size of space, etc.
     
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    I know I've seen every episode, but could someone tell me which one had Lister's organs in deep freeze? For the life of me, I honestly can't remember..! :-D

    Loved Black Light Burns' quote:

    Rimmer - "Last mould ever. The last bit of mould ever, and it's living above my bunk."
    Lister - "He has got a name you know, Rimmer."

    :lol:
     

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