No offence meant Jo, this is all terribly interesting for you I'm sure, but really that was my point. It's not terribly important or interesting in terms of the show itself. While I'm happy to read your story here and am pleased you all live in a big happy RD family, I don't really care to watch what some fans choose to get up to or listen to them talk over episodes on official DVD's just because they've achieved some sort of pseudo-fame in the fan-circuit. Fan websites like GnT are great and I enjoy them for what they are and the different slant they can offer in discussing the show but at the same time that doesn't mean I found that "yeah but no" thing that appeared on one of the DVD's to be in any way worthy of inclusion. My opinion is that I dislike independent fan produced content appearing on official DVD's, however much of a dream this may have been for those involved. Looking back over my comments perhaps I went too far in including the convention footage. I didn't mind it as a one off, as it pretty much confirmed to me that it isn't the sort of event I'd ever want to go to so it was interesting in that aspect. If I'm honest I think Red Dwarf has maybe gotten a little too close and cliquey with its fanbase over the years and that's partly why the show lost some of its edge. Stuff like the Dibley family almost seems like it was written to service the dress-up crowd, even though they probably ended up hating it, which is ironic given that Dibley was probably initially created as a parody of the more hardcore fans (something Craig Charles even jokes about on the DVD). I don't know of another show that involves and respects it's fans as well as Red Dwarf does and for that it is to be commended but at the same time the slightly blurred, almost incestuous working relationship that exists between them can be...I don't know, a little bit disturbing to me. But then I'm a Red Dwarf fan...so I'm probably weird like that.