new series ideas you would like to see

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  1. yeckel

    yeckel Console Officer

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    Live studio audience of course (free tickets to fans is my vote). However, since I post on here this likely makes me an unofficial fan. :? ....:-(
     
  2. Sammy Psycho

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    I would love to see it done with a studio audience, but then again i would also like the filmic BTE type of thing. So can we have both please? ahh go on. I'm being greedy.
     
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    Why don't they charge!? Not much but it will have a tight budget as it is and the studio audience costs money, why not charge a tenner for each ticket.

    I've asked Doug if they'd go the Series VII route so it can have the DVDs with or without laughter.
     
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    As far as I know, they didn't charge because 'Red Dwarf' was broadcast on the BBC, which is paid for by the audience via the licence fee. It'd be a bit rich to tell the people who funded it (theoretically) that they then had to pay again to see it.
     
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    Which I no longer a problem since only BBC Worldwide will be funding it which has nothing to do with the license fee (well in this context).
     
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    My thoughts, purely for the sake of discussion (keeping in mind I favor the type of businesses that run as a co-op as featured in the film Capitalism: A Love Story)...I think my opinion is based upon the adequate funding of the project. How much profit is really needed on the project? Is the budget so small to where a lack of charging for a ticket would halt a studio audience? Perhaps a fee is then needed. However, if this is not the case then I believe the audience should be able to participate with the show for free. Studio audiences are a benefit to the project in terms of marketing and in actor performance. Although editing and sound may prefer to not deal with studio audiences. If the show is funded adequately, having the studio audience pay falls into the same category as asking extras/background to pay for the privilege of being part of the experience. This is a greedy business practice, in my opinion. Again, I can write this as I have no valid insight into the specific budget or production requirements for the new series. So my opinion may be as valuable as a toddler's opinion of why the sky is blue.

    Then again, I also think that many of the big name actors are much overpaid and smaller crew/talent positions are vastly underpaid. Not favored opinions reflective of the way entertainment businesses typically run.
     
  7. Andrew

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    Well here's the thing. There's no denying that charging a fee for the, what, 300 or so seats in the Red Dwarf audience would bring in money. Not vast amounts in TV budget terms, but maybe every little helps.

    The flip side is that audiences are donating something to the show, their laughter, and one might argue that it's a bit rum to ask them to pay for the privilege. The flip side of that is that audiences in live stand-up DVDs are ticket-buyers.

    The psychology of the event is important, though. Studio audiences tend to queue outside in the cold, aiming to be front of the line because tickets are always over-subscribed to avoid empty seats/less laughter. It's an uncomfortable thing to do...and then you get inside to discover the seats are even more uncomfortable and now, thanks to the lights, it's too hot.

    Then things go wrong, retakes abound, and you have to suffer through it all as the warm-up guy does his best, not always successfully, to take your mind off the irritations. Such as the lack of a convenient bathroom break. And when you leave it's a long trek home because the studio is in the middle of nowhere. Public transport? Good luck.

    With all that going on, would a fee make an audience more or less enthusiastic?

    Then there's the logistics. The ticketing is contracted out because it's something that needs doing right - security, insurance, personnel - and those firms specialise in free events. Start charging and you get into having to use a different type of firm, one that deals with the money-taking - online set-up for card payments, refunds and other issues - and that firm will cost more. Because you're asking more of them. So some of the money goes on paying to take the money.

    And with paid tickets come guarantees. People can't be refused entrance because the event is full, not when they've coughed up cash. So you can only sell as many tickets as you have seats. One broken down coach trip later and episode five suddenly sounds a lot less laughter-filled. (Fix it in post? Sure. Pay the extra time for the sound editor and his gear and we can work on that.)

    Then a cast member gets sick 24 hours before the recording. They shoot all his scenes pre-record, rewrite to accommodate, but a lot of audience members paid to see Craig Charles. They ask for their money back.

    I dunno. There might be reasons to do it. There may be enough gains to justify it. But my instinct tells me that the downsides are too big to ignore.
     
  8. PsychoticallyDerangedkillersimulant

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    It would be nice if they did a new series , although by this point I dont think we need one . Back to Earth was nice as a trip down nostalgia lane , but I just saw a repeat of an old storyline which I think would continue if they did another series.
    I never actually liked the fact the crew were brought back to life in Series 8 , I didnt get the same feeling as I did in series 1 from it . Aswell as the fact that I felt like they went through all that , just to end up back where they started .

    What I would like to see is one of specials , like they did with Cant smeg wont smeg and possibley a television movie . I dont think a movie will ever happen it would have been nice whilst the cast were young , and when they were still using a live audience .
     
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    i say 4 episodes infront of an audiance, and then 2 filmed differently for any good plot twists
     

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