Really? I'd love to do that sometime, but I'd never have the guts, even as a joke. Ooh, I hadn't remembered that particular tendency of Rimmer's. (How the heck I could have missed it I have no idea. Does fangirling affect your eyesight? ) Nope, haven't got anything to explain that one away. I apologise most profusely for talking about Rimmer so that you can be far more objective than the rest of us. * *not trying to be nasty, this is just banter right?