The death penalty

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  1. neilold

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    Is it justified, if so when, and for those that say no, what about if your family members were the victim?
     
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    So are you for a quick humane death, or more slow and painful
     
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    Same, but I couldn't be the one to do it. Which seems bad in itself
     
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    Don't agree with it at all.
     
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    Even if it was a family member who was a victim?
     
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    I would probably want personal revenge based on my own grief.

    Overall the death penalty is a ghastly notion. Particularly when you weigh up the amount of people who have been wrongly accused of crimes.
     
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    But what about those whose lives have being potentially saved by it? Yes we can't put a figure on it, buy that doesn't mean it should be completely discounted surely?
     
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    Against it.
    Yes, so this is why it's important not to leave it in the hands of the bereaved to make the decision. I can fully relate to how they feel. Really. But I also know it's a decision driven by emotion, not morality.

    I do find it quite scary when I see people saying they would like to see people, who they feel may have wronged them somehow, face the death penalty.
     
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    It's not saving lives killing the wrong people...!
     
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    It wouldn't really save any lives. The vast majority of murderers only ever kill one person. You can't issue the death penalty before it happens. Those that go on to kill more...well they can only really do that as long as they're not caught. And once they're caught they're locked up for life anyway, meaning they're unable to murder anyone else.

    Executing them saves no more lives than life imprisonment does. In fact it costs more, if you count the murderers themselves. And there's always the possibility that an entirely innocent person is executed, which wouldn't be the case if the death penalty didn't exist.
     
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    And the monetarial cost of life imprisonment?
     
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    Andrew Ellard has little option but to resign over this!
     
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    Umm...are you saying that you want murderers to be executed or you want me to be executed? Bit unclear. And frightening.
     
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    Just to be clear; are you levelling all those accusations at Andrew Ellard?
     
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    Pretty much, yeah!
     
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    Fact of the matter is; no trial is full proof. No laws are justice proof. There's plenty of recent examples of people accused of murder, terrorism, being paedophiles who later turned out to be totally innocent after long jail terms. under Neil's regime, all these innocent people would be dead!
     
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    I'm not for execution Willy nilly. I only mean for crime such as multiple murder. It's very hard I admit. You will always have innocent people. But if you take that line you could argue that you shouldn't punish people at all, in case you're innocent . It's not easy to answer by any means, and I don't take it lightly. Even murder of a single person can be very objective. Ranging from vicious torture of said victim to accidental death. That's what makes it a challenging subject, and why I posted in the first place.
     
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    Hehehe "willy"
     
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    I'm against the death penalty but feel we should make more use of full life terms.
     
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    Yeah that makes sense and also that life imprisonment should mean life imprisonment (although to be fair, in places where the death penalty exists, life usually does mean life).
     

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