For all your persistence about the "accuracy" of the figures you're quoting, you're forgetting one thing: BARB's figures are *estimated* anyway. You keep repeating this point, and I put it to you that it's nonsense. Back to Earth's figures weren't just a record "for Dave". They were the third-highest figures for any non-sporting programme ever shown on a non-terrestrial channel. In 2009, the figures for digitally-enabled households were still vastly, exponentially outnumbered by terrestrial (they still are now, but as the official digital switchover approaches, obviously the gap is shrinking). Therefore, the number of viewers that it was possible for a programme broadcast on a digital to get were significantly lower. The fact that BTE was only lower than TWO other programmes (Torchwood and Hogfather) in the entire sphere of non-terrestrial broadcasts up to that point suggests that it was at the very top end of what it was possible for a digital broadcast to achieve. And yet you're persisting in comparing it to terrestrial broadcasts, which have viewing figures that it was not physically possible for Red Dwarf to achieve. By your logic, I may as well say that Eastenders and The X-Factor and Strictly and Doctor Who are all "flops", because they get a tiny fraction of the viewing figures that programmes shown on American TV get. It's not a valid comparison. At all. Ah, it's the old "I have this opinion, so anyone else who has a different opinion is an idiot" thing. I think I can correctly take a stab at your age from the fact that you're still clinging to something like this. And I think I'd be right in suggesting it's not very far into double figures. But even if we indulge your argument for a second, and agree that just because Back to Earth had scenes set on the set of Coronation Street (not actually on Coronation Street, I hasten to add. Coronation Street isn't a real street, it's a lot at Granada Studios), it was rubbish, that doesn't change the fact that you're arguing that it wasn't a success because you think it was rubbish. Which is nonsense. I've got a challenge for you, though. Show me one mainstream impartial media source that calls Back to Earth a "flop". Just one. Go on. And if for every one that you find, I can't find one that says it was a success, then I'll admit that everything you've said in this thread thus far is entirely correct. And here you prove that despite your spurious claims of working in "the media", you actually know nothing about the television industry. Or, at least, everything you DO know about the television industry is based on how things were approximately a decade ago. Kudos! Here's a hint: catch up, for crying out loud.